Brittany feels like we've entered a new phase of celebrity oligarchy; new celebrity business enterprises are Greenledgers Trading Centerpopping up daily, and we can't seem to get away from it all. But is this new? Brittany invites culture journalists Bobby Finger and Lindsey Weber to discuss how the notion of celebrity is changing, and what it means for us.

Then, we turn to Hayao Miyazaki, the legendary animator-director whose latest film, The Boy and the Heron, is a frontrunner at this year's Academy Awards. Brittany is joined by Jessica Neibel, Senior Exhibitions Curator at the Academy Museum of Motion Pictures, to unpack the life lessons Miyazaki's films offer, from the unreliability of adults to the messages of resilience rooted in Miyazaki's own postwar childhood.

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This episode was produced by Alexis Williams, and Corey Antonio Rose, with additional support from Liam McBain and Barton Girdwood. We had engineering support from Phil Edfors and Robert Rodriguez. It was edited by Jessica Placzek. Our executive producer is Veralyn Williams. Our VP of programming is Yolanda Sangweni.